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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 15:33:23 » |
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yeah, remember him. And to be honest, I think he´s right!! But then, you shouldn´t believe all a doping caught rider says....
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2006, 21:37:18 » |
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Jose Enrique Gurierrez named as well. This is gonna be interesting 
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2006, 09:09:36 » |
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These guys are named:
Santiago Botero
José Enrique Gutiérrez Cataluna
Roberto Heras
Unai Osa
Michele Scarponi
Oscar Sevilla
Angel Vicioso
Alejandro Valverde !!!
Jose Antonio Escuredo (medaillist OS 2004 Athene)
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2006, 02:53:52 » |
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lol and who hadnt guesed guiterez, once again phonak the dopes are caught :S
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2006, 08:48:20 » |
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Some newspapers say that Basso is on the list as well.....
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2006, 09:28:00 » |
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Well, apparetly Basso's name was mentioned in a telephoneconversation between Fuentes and Saiz - this accusation is made by a spanish magasin - Interviu, who claims to hold the transcripts of the conversation. It's also this magasin that implies the connection to "The Buffalo".
Otherwise it seems as if the riders, who in the past have worked with Checchini, is also on the list - this should explain why Ullrich and Basso is mentioned. Checchini and Fuentes is somehow linked to eachother in the past.
While T-mobile demands a written denail from all of their riders of any connection to Fuentes, Team CSC doesn't see that necesary - and proclaims that they are not worried about theese allegations. In not sure how Phonak and other teams handle this case.
Hopefully the spanish authorities and the international cycling federation will be able to make a fast and effective investigation, so the cheaters can be banned, and everyone else free off suspicion.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2006, 09:49:28 » |
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Seems like once again Phonak is in the middle of doping investigations. When are they going to learn? First Hamilton, then Perez, then Guidi, then Urweider and now this with their biggest riders involved. Get rid of Phonak....
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2006, 15:03:14 » |
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But what do you think will happen to the guys on the list?
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2006, 17:17:32 » |
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Ouch... Botero and Gutierrez have been sidelined by Phonak indefinately. They have both been filmed with hidden cameras entering Fuentes clinic, and Phonak have desided, that they will not be racing before futher investegation have decided their involvment in the scandale. They will both be fired, if evidence can link them to forbidden substances.
I belive this proves that the team managements have to react harshly against those riders, who will be proven "customers" in Fuentes lab. But as I wrote earlier, it seems that some riders on the list have not necessarily been in direct contact with Fuentes himself, and others have consultet him for normale medical attention - so who knows, what will happen to those riders on the list.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2006, 19:42:06 » |
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The exclusion of Botero and Gutierrez was an honourable act from Phonak, no other teams have done so. Especially brave when you think of the fact that Botero was going to start the Dauphiné on Sunday as preparation for the TDF. Finally, a good sign from Phonak.
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2006, 08:38:42 » |
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The team is now called "Astaná - Würth". Astaná is the capital of Kaza...  (how do you write it in english?  ) and it means, that the five most important industry firms will sponsor the team. Think it's a bit ridiculous... don't they have no other problems in their country???
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2006, 09:37:54 » |
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It's Kazachstan  I think there are enough sponsors in spain but I guess they don't want to be sponsor of a team involved in a doping scandal. Or maybe this was the only sponsor they could find in such a short time.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2006, 20:17:21 » |
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Kazachstan would help Vino at any time, as Vino is a good friend of the President of Kazachstan.
The country wants to help Vino, cuz they are sure he'll win the TdF
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2006, 21:55:34 » |
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Yes, that's all clear, but I wanted to say that Kazachstan (  ) has many problems with his poorness (or the pporness of the people who live there) and it's funny that they sponsor a cycling team. Better should help their country...  This does not mean that i'm not lucky Liberty found a new sponsor...
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« Reply #29 on: June 04, 2006, 11:02:51 » |
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I don't think Kazakhstan is that poor at all... They aren't rich of course but definately not a Nation I would consider poor
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